This item is a response to
comments made by 'Anonymous' on two of my blog articles earlier this month: Immigration
and the Imperial Mentality, with a comment on 24 April, and The Dead Sea,
with a comment on 27 April. I would prefer that people who comment use a name,
but let that be. I would also prefer that the comments or questions had more
substance, rather than simply recycling prejudices. But, since the
prejudices raised are commonly held, I feel inclined to answer them, rather
than to think they are from an Internet troll or a calculated wind up from
someone who knew that they would make my blood boil.
I have
reproduced each of the main comments in bold below, and then answered
the points raised in the text below each one. My replies are brief, partly
because I have other things to do and partly because the ill thought out nature
of the comments does not deserve a more extensive response. The views of
Anonymous reek of imperial prejudice. However, it is not the confident
prejudice of the British establishment, but the no less sickening hypocrisy and
prejudice of the British ‘labour movement᾿.
The latter is
cloaked in a concern for the mass of people, but is really an assertion of the
rights of imperialist country workers over those elsewhere. Notably, the
comments from Anonymous have been raised on the question of immigration. The
answer to this question determines whether you are on the side of the working
class internationally, or whether you want special privileges for your ‘own’
working class, ones that you think will come from calling on ‘your’ state to
implement the correct policies. This is the core of the argument presented by
Anonymous, covered with the stinking slime of ‘Europe’ and ‘Western values’.
So, to begin
…
1. “Should Europeans commit
the last of their pension money, destroy their social democracy, extirpate
their cultures, genetic identity, etc., to facilitate invasion of their
countries? Would mass-suicide be a proper move, speeding the process up a few
years?” 27 April 2015
a) Pension money. This
comes from money invested in financial securities, usually with a return based
on income gained from equities and bonds, but perhaps also from property,
commodities, etc. This money is not simply workers’ and others’ savings, but
savings that are directed into funds that earn revenues from worldwide
investments, particularly in the funds run by the major powers. So, pension
payments are based on the profits produced worldwide, rather than simply being
a means of saving for retirement. Note also that many poor countries do not pay
any pensions of significance, while most rich country pension funds have
payment liabilities that greatly exceed the expected returns on their assets.
b) Social democracy. This
is a form of politics that originated in Western Europe from the late 19th
century, one that tried to reconcile the newly enfranchised working class
masses with the capitalist system. It offered social reform as a palliative to
the exigencies of the capitalist market that drove many into poverty.
Particularly in Germany before 1914, it also offered a gradual, reform-based
road to socialism, but everywhere it supported the state’s war on other states,
mass slaughter and the oppression of Europe’s colonies. No political movement
in the West today could in any sense be called social democratic; the
mainstream parties all accept capitalism as a permanent fact of life. It is
appropriate that even radical ones adopt ‘Keynesian’ views of managing the
economy, as Keynes himself wanted to save capitalism.
c) Cultures. Europe?
Personally, I prefer Indian and Middle Eastern mathematics to Roman numerals,
and jazz and other forms of music (from Africa and the Caribbean) to Classical
music. I really do not like Morris dancing. Everyone to his or her own taste.
d) Genetic identity. You
should check this out more. Scientific evidence would suggest that everybody
comes from Africa. In any case, what has genetics got to do with the
development of society, which in its main forms has developed in the past ten
thousand years?
e) Invasion of countries. This
is a preposterous exaggeration of the scale of immigration. You would also do
better to study European military invasions in the Americas, Africa and Asia to
find real examples of how to ‘extirpate’ cultures.
f) Suicide. Everyone must
make his or her own decision whether life is worth living. More important is
the decision whether to try and understand what drives the world, rather than accepting first impressions or whatever the political climate imposes.
2. “Do you know how much wage
suppression causes, extending capitalism by keeping profits at that sweet 12
percent/year it demands? Do you know how the accelerated the destruction of
social services are, a combination of right-wing cuts and over extension from
millions of illiterate, intolerant peasants? Do you know the hundreds of
millions in remittances the immigrants send home, further eroding the domestic
economy in an age of austerity?” 27 April 2015
a) Wage suppression. It
is a mystery where you get your 12% (rate of) profit. In any case, there is
always an attempt by capitalist employers to keep wages low. How have ‘millions
of illiterate, intolerant peasants’ contributed to this? You also ignore the
role of trade unions in colluding with management to split the workforce into
insiders and outsiders, the latter being part-time, temporary workers, etc.
b) Destruction of social
services. There has been little cut back in social services spending, at
least so far in the UK. There will be significant cuts in future, and these are
attempts by the ruling class to restore profitability, the lack of which has
undermined the revenues from which these unproductive (for capitalism)
expenditures can be funded. However, you want to blame immigration for putting
pressure on social services, rather than capitalism for being increasingly
unable to provide decent living standards. As for ‘right-wing cuts’, you ignore
the role of the previous Labour Government in backing privatisation, school
academies, etc. In any case, this raises a point about the origin of the social
services. If you look, you will find that the 1945'ish origin was (i) promoted
by the Liberals (Beveridge) and (ii) was planned under the subsequent Labour
Government as being funded by exploitation of Britain's colonies. This was part
of a ‘social contract’ between the British ruling class and the mass of people:
in return for mass support for British imperialism, the state delivered some
social welfare. The economics behind that game is over. But you moan about not
getting your goods, while still clinging loyally to the capitalist state. The
term reactionary fool comes to mind.
c) Illiterate, intolerant
peasants. Is it so hard to meet the relatives of those who made the shirt
you are wearing? Those who are more than 10 years behind our elevated standards
on women’s rights? Those who often have a stronger sense of community than the
British? Your European culture has been fuelled by the blood and oppression of
countries that are the source of your fearsome peasants.
d) Remittances. Yes, I do
know the scale of remittances. It is very small indeed compared to the other
items in the balance of payments, on imports, exports, etc. Notably, you are
more nationalist-minded, not to say racist, in these calculations than British
and other national capitalists, who also take into account the benefits they
get from the supply of cheap labour from immigrants. For example, since the
1950s, low-paid immigrants have increasingly staffed the NHS. Presumably, you
would be opposed to higher wages in such jobs because that would only increase
the remittances these foreigners could make. That would be consistent with your
choice of nation before class.
3. “Have you ever traveled?
If so, you know full well not one non-Western country is importing workers,
much less to the point of total destruction of the home culture by ones that do
not believe in tolerance or left politics.” 24 April 2015
a) Have you ever travelled?
Yes.
b) Not one non-Western
country is importing workers. Migration is affected by many things, wars,
social disruption, natural disasters, people seeking a better life or job
elsewhere. Countries have many different ways in which they regulate
immigration, naturalisation of immigrants as citizens, etc. While economics is
a key driver of migrant flows, with poorer people usually moving, or attempting
to move, to richer countries, it is not a one-way street. It is simply wrong to
say that non-Western (meaning poorer) countries do not import workers. There
are about six million migrants from other countries in India. Brazil even has
co-official languages (usually Italian or German) in cities where there is a
large proportion of immigrants.
c) Total destruction of home
culture, tolerance and left politics. I cannot tell you how much I miss
bread and dripping, a day at the dogtrack, breeding pigeons, colour bars on
jobs and housing and racist chanting at football matches, because I don't miss
them. Tolerance is a function of relative comfort. ‘Left politics’ has been
moribund for decades in rich countries, not least the UK. It tried to connect
with the pro-imperial mentality of the masses in rich countries and was always
delusional, relying on the state.
4. “There's nothing in
Marxism that demands obliteration of one culture by importing unlimited amounts
from another culture to offer a one-off wage suppression.” 24 April 2015
There is nothing in Marxism that
calls upon the state to defend the privileges of one group of workers at the
expense of another.
1 comment:
This post is a true highlight from a genuinely wonderful and informative blog.
I've been learning a lot here the past couple of weeks.
Thanks, Tony!
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